I think when he first succeeded Shanks, he was a bit overawed. I'll never forget him standing in the dressing room in the summer of 1974 on the first day of pre-season training and telling us: 'Shanks has gone and they're giving me the job even though I didn't really want it. But we must try to carry on what he's started'. He saw it as his duty to take the job. Yet he set an incredible record that will never be beaten. Things just snowballed for him after that first season.